I appreciate that you are not prepared to discard the diversity and inclusion components of DEI as they express important values in democratic society. I will defer for the present on the second "E" of your argument ("Enlightenment") about which I need to think further. However, I take a different tack regarding "equity" which, from my perspective, should be focused on the reallocation of current resources based on the recognition that in the past, resources have been disbursed based on race and gender, and other characteristics rather than merit. By addressing the reallocation of current resources our institutions can correct past actions in a steady but incremental way and promote, as you reference, liberal social justice.
I see your point! And I suppose it depends how we define 'equity'. I oppose the kind of equity supported by Kendi, because to me it seems to ignore differences in cultures and trample on individual preferences.
But there are other definitions of 'equity' that might be useful. As one example, a friend recently pointed out that Ivys put a lot of store in legacy admissions...but not a lot of black people were being accepted in the 1960s. So whites have a built-in leg up when it comes to Ivy admissions due to being more likely to be legacies. That's a problem (though I think the solution there might be to just end legacy admissions, rather than create new rules to help young African Americans compete with legacy whites). But you're 100% right that the playing field has not been historically level, and I'm open to whatever might get us to a truly level playing field. Have you seen Coleman Hughes' TED Talk? Towards the end, he gets into this a little bit.
Another case where equity seems useful: putting in ramps/etc for people with disabilities. I don't know too many folks who disagree with that type of equity.
When you say, "racism still exists" would you please be more specific as to what kinds of racism and from whom. The implication always seems to be that it's racism from whites as if they corner the market on racism; and it's noteworthy that you offer just examples of white racism. What about racism against whites and Asians and from whom is it mostly coming from. I know that the NAACP and most race baiters share the laughable belief that "blacks cannot be racist," which among other things serves as an invitation to blacks to spew racism toward whites with relative impunity. The last time I looked at the FBI stats on hate crimes blacks were outpacing whites and when it comes to racism against Asians I've also looked at some stats that have blacks outpacing whites in that category. So it's time to dispense with this misrepresentation that whites are the only or even biggest racist group. There was a recent study that I read where people were poled on the question of which racial group was the most racist and every group, including blacks, said the blacks were the most racist. Now I'm not just gratuitously picking on blacks when I ask these questions and share these numbers but isn't that exactly what you're doing Mr. Adorney?
I appreciate that you are not prepared to discard the diversity and inclusion components of DEI as they express important values in democratic society. I will defer for the present on the second "E" of your argument ("Enlightenment") about which I need to think further. However, I take a different tack regarding "equity" which, from my perspective, should be focused on the reallocation of current resources based on the recognition that in the past, resources have been disbursed based on race and gender, and other characteristics rather than merit. By addressing the reallocation of current resources our institutions can correct past actions in a steady but incremental way and promote, as you reference, liberal social justice.
I see your point! And I suppose it depends how we define 'equity'. I oppose the kind of equity supported by Kendi, because to me it seems to ignore differences in cultures and trample on individual preferences.
But there are other definitions of 'equity' that might be useful. As one example, a friend recently pointed out that Ivys put a lot of store in legacy admissions...but not a lot of black people were being accepted in the 1960s. So whites have a built-in leg up when it comes to Ivy admissions due to being more likely to be legacies. That's a problem (though I think the solution there might be to just end legacy admissions, rather than create new rules to help young African Americans compete with legacy whites). But you're 100% right that the playing field has not been historically level, and I'm open to whatever might get us to a truly level playing field. Have you seen Coleman Hughes' TED Talk? Towards the end, he gets into this a little bit.
Another case where equity seems useful: putting in ramps/etc for people with disabilities. I don't know too many folks who disagree with that type of equity.
I would love to debate this with you if you are willing. You have an open invitation to my podcast.
When you say, "racism still exists" would you please be more specific as to what kinds of racism and from whom. The implication always seems to be that it's racism from whites as if they corner the market on racism; and it's noteworthy that you offer just examples of white racism. What about racism against whites and Asians and from whom is it mostly coming from. I know that the NAACP and most race baiters share the laughable belief that "blacks cannot be racist," which among other things serves as an invitation to blacks to spew racism toward whites with relative impunity. The last time I looked at the FBI stats on hate crimes blacks were outpacing whites and when it comes to racism against Asians I've also looked at some stats that have blacks outpacing whites in that category. So it's time to dispense with this misrepresentation that whites are the only or even biggest racist group. There was a recent study that I read where people were poled on the question of which racial group was the most racist and every group, including blacks, said the blacks were the most racist. Now I'm not just gratuitously picking on blacks when I ask these questions and share these numbers but isn't that exactly what you're doing Mr. Adorney?